Comments on: Since most of us agree that there should be respect for the innovators in hip hop? http://antiquerecordplayers.info/since-most-of-us-agree-that-there-should-be-respect-for-the-innovators-in-hip-hop.htm Wed, 23 May 2012 22:09:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: New Moon Daughter http://antiquerecordplayers.info/since-most-of-us-agree-that-there-should-be-respect-for-the-innovators-in-hip-hop.htm/comment-page-1#comment-5537 New Moon Daughter Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:26:41 +0000 http://antiquerecordplayers.info/since-most-of-us-agree-that-there-should-be-respect-for-the-innovators-in-hip-hop.htm#comment-5537 I hate to be simplistic and somewhat pessimistic but I think the lack of respect is due to the fact that both turntablism and breaking are extremely hard to master. I think most people don't like to try too hard at things...the easy way out is always what's poppin for most people. And since it's hard, less people do it, and thus it's obscured. Anyone can be a rapper (see: most new mainstream) and making beats is basically dumbed down to a simple computer program. You see the same thing with Graffiti as with turntablism and breaking. It's hard, so the Asians mastered it (j/k but you get my point!) I hate to be simplistic and somewhat pessimistic but I think the lack of respect is due to the fact that both turntablism and breaking are extremely hard to master. I think most people don’t like to try too hard at things…the easy way out is always what’s poppin for most people. And since it’s hard, less people do it, and thus it’s obscured.
Anyone can be a rapper (see: most new mainstream) and making beats is basically dumbed down to a simple computer program.
You see the same thing with Graffiti as with turntablism and breaking. It’s hard, so the Asians mastered it (j/k but you get my point!)

]]> By: Full of Hate http://antiquerecordplayers.info/since-most-of-us-agree-that-there-should-be-respect-for-the-innovators-in-hip-hop.htm/comment-page-1#comment-5538 Full of Hate Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:26:41 +0000 http://antiquerecordplayers.info/since-most-of-us-agree-that-there-should-be-respect-for-the-innovators-in-hip-hop.htm#comment-5538 dj q-bert is the man but sadly it's been turned into a gimmick like everything else that requires money to gain the knowledge and kissing a$$holes a$$es. b-boys died when the gays took it over. LIFE IS SAD. dj q-bert is the man but sadly it’s been turned into a gimmick like everything else that requires money to gain the knowledge and kissing a$$holes a$$es. b-boys died when the gays took it over. LIFE IS SAD.

]]> By: akafarraryf50 http://antiquerecordplayers.info/since-most-of-us-agree-that-there-should-be-respect-for-the-innovators-in-hip-hop.htm/comment-page-1#comment-5539 akafarraryf50 Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:26:41 +0000 http://antiquerecordplayers.info/since-most-of-us-agree-that-there-should-be-respect-for-the-innovators-in-hip-hop.htm#comment-5539 Dj's made Hip hop, underground hip hop artist Always have Dj's, but i know Lil wayne and other trash artist don't have dj's. Dj’s made Hip hop, underground hip hop artist Always have Dj’s, but i know Lil wayne and other trash artist don’t have dj’s.

]]> By: B.k.S. http://antiquerecordplayers.info/since-most-of-us-agree-that-there-should-be-respect-for-the-innovators-in-hip-hop.htm/comment-page-1#comment-5540 B.k.S. Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:26:41 +0000 http://antiquerecordplayers.info/since-most-of-us-agree-that-there-should-be-respect-for-the-innovators-in-hip-hop.htm#comment-5540 Because they're not music. 99.7% of people who are into hip hop do not give a rats ass about breakdancing, graffiti and turntablism. Hip Hop is a commercial music genre first, and a subculture second. Like it or not, that's really how it is. With that said I do respect and appreciate turntablists, and cringe when I see questions about who are the top 5 DJs and people list a bunch of producers, or people with DJ in their name who can't do scratch on the 1s and 2s (pun intended). But then again, turntablism is a form of MUSIC. And being a hip hop music fanatic it's part of my collection. Which is why I know about it. But I'll freely admit I don't know anything about influential breakdancers or graff artists. Even if people still break and write today, the original culture and unity of the 4 elements faded in the 90s. Because they’re not music.

99.7% of people who are into hip hop do not give a rats ass about breakdancing, graffiti and turntablism. Hip Hop is a commercial music genre first, and a subculture second.

Like it or not, that’s really how it is.

With that said I do respect and appreciate turntablists, and cringe when I see questions about who are the top 5 DJs and people list a bunch of producers, or people with DJ in their name who can’t do scratch on the 1s and 2s (pun intended).

But then again, turntablism is a form of MUSIC. And being a hip hop music fanatic it’s part of my collection. Which is why I know about it. But I’ll freely admit I don’t know anything about influential breakdancers or graff artists.

Even if people still break and write today, the original culture and unity of the 4 elements faded in the 90s.

]]> By: Chris http://antiquerecordplayers.info/since-most-of-us-agree-that-there-should-be-respect-for-the-innovators-in-hip-hop.htm/comment-page-1#comment-5541 Chris Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:26:41 +0000 http://antiquerecordplayers.info/since-most-of-us-agree-that-there-should-be-respect-for-the-innovators-in-hip-hop.htm#comment-5541 LOL @ Full of Hate, but I agree, nobody gives a rat ass this generation. All the good DJs (like Q-bert, Premier, Fat Boy Slim) and all the really cool whacky asian kids and acrobatic black kids who could break dance faded after the 90s (except some whacky asian break dancers, they're still around just not in America really.) But I have seen some pretty good break dancers on youtube only thing is they're all international compititions, so not so many Americans. As far as graffiti artists are concerned there's very few REAL graffiti artists that are American, but I do have a friend who studies Graffiti art and does it in the Art Institute of Atlanta, so there is still some pretty good graffiti artists around. Edit: DJ Premier is still making tracks (grant it they aren't the best), but he's still turn tabling for artists like ill Bill, Necro, I think Dr. Dre, and a few others. LOL @ Full of Hate, but I agree, nobody gives a rat ass this generation. All the good DJs (like Q-bert, Premier, Fat Boy Slim) and all the really cool whacky asian kids and acrobatic black kids who could break dance faded after the 90s (except some whacky asian break dancers, they’re still around just not in America really.) But I have seen some pretty good break dancers on youtube only thing is they’re all international compititions, so not so many Americans. As far as graffiti artists are concerned there’s very few REAL graffiti artists that are American, but I do have a friend who studies Graffiti art and does it in the Art Institute of Atlanta, so there is still some pretty good graffiti artists around.

Edit: DJ Premier is still making tracks (grant it they aren’t the best), but he’s still turn tabling for artists like ill Bill, Necro, I think Dr. Dre, and a few others.

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